[xquery-talk] XML/XQuery academic conferences ?

Michael Rys mrys at microsoft.com
Wed Oct 12 12:15:49 PDT 2011

We used to have the XML Symposium workshop but VLDB did not find room for it this year. 

Actually good research on XML/XQuery still has a chance for getting into SIGMOD/VLDB/ICDE. For example we are going to have a paper at ICDE on XML processing.

But it is harder. If the academic environment is so "anti-XML" at the moment (and Stonebraker has been so since the dawn of time), then how easy is it to get tenure with XML topics anyway? :)

Best regards

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at x-query.com [mailto:talk-bounces at x-query.com] On Behalf Of Daniela Florescu
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:10 PM
To: James Fuller
Cc: xquery-discuss
Subject: Re: [xquery-talk] XML/XQuery academic conferences ?

Thanks James. Looking forward to more ideas:

Actually, to my list I forgot to add

IR conferences. Yet another bunch that I know nothing about, but I am interested to hear more.

Best regards

On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:03 PM, James Fuller wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Daniela Florescu <dflorescu at mac.com> 
> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I am having a problem right now, and I don't know how to solve it.
>> We had over the summer several outstanding students, who did really 
>> great research in processing XML and XQuery.
>> Here comes the question. Where can we publish the result of this 
>> research  !?
> http://www.springer.com/computer/database+management+%26+information+r
> etrieval/book/978-3-642-03554-8
> http://www.springer.com/computer/database+management+%26+information+r
> etrieval/book/978-3-540-30951-2
> In my mind Balisage is the natural for this, but we could orientate 
> things now that we have moved XML Prague to University of Ekonomics 
> ... perhaps there is value in a compiled journal from several 
> conferences/sources (XML Summer School et al) ?
>> 2. Database conferences.
> I dont think so ... many of these guys are being forced to accept 
> polystructured data ... my feeling is this are is probably the logical 
> container for these kind of papers.
>> So they'll not understand the XQuery new work, let alone publish it.
> agreed, but I its a pretty broad tent with lots of outlets for 
> publishing, some who may consider
>> 3. Functional programming conferences (after all, XQuery is a 
>> functional language..). Maybe it's a choice !?
>> I have no experience, but I am interested to hear if anybody else 
>> has.
> fp bulk existence is in academic form and perhaps its time to welcome 
> xquery 3.0 to them ... they would probably support a language with a 
> gentle learning curve, etc.
>> 4. WWW Conference. Based on my experience, it's such a wide 
>> conference --- it's like a conference on water
>> -- where do you start !? As a result the audience, as well as the 
>> program committee, is interested in widely different  things (and 
>> XML/XQuery might not be one of them, and then you are out of
>> luck)
> agreed too broad, but as an activity to get the word out about xquery 
> probably useful to attempt to go
>> 5. NoSQL conferences. Unfortunately, there are two problems. First, 
>> NoSQL is still not accepted in academic conferences
>> -- they have the same problem as XML itself. And second, they try to 
>> stay away from XML like crazy ("angle brackets, not cool,man, not 
>> cool.
>> Not Web
>> scale.").
> I believe we should be at these conferences, if not because NoSQL 
> crowd is about to have their own 'query wars' and it will be good to 
> be near (but on the sidelines of this).
>> So, I am interested in your feedback.
> will send more thoughts after the weekend.
> J

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