[xquery-talk] asterixdb
Pavel Velikhov
pavel.velikhov at gmail.com
Sat Oct 10 04:41:00 PDT 2015
N1QL seems to have all the features to support a JSONiq front-end. Seems like a simple translation, except for the group-by clause.
I guess if people like 4-valued logic, breaking up constructors into group by and select clauses - let them have it :)
> On 10 Oct 2015, at 13:03, daniela florescu <dflorescu at me.com> wrote:
>
> Andy,
>
> The story is more complicated here.
>
> The professor at Irvine Univ. in charge of the students team who designed AsterixDB, Mike Carey, is
> today the Chief Architect of CouchDB, who ships the N1QL that I just sent yesterday.
>
> Mike Carey knows exactly XQuery, given that he was in charge of my XQuery processor at BEA Systems after I left.
>
> So it’s definitely not by lack of knowledge that he went BACKWARDS and N1QL is even more primitive then SQL 92
> (just added some primitive forms of path expressions to it..)
>
> It’s probably market pressure….
>
> IT HAS TO LOOK LIKE SQL, AND IT HAS TO USE THE THREE MAGIC KEYWORDS “select” “from” AND “where”.
>
>
> Other then that, who cares that from a data processing perspective, we go backwards where we were in 1994 !???
> (and nested select-from-where in the from clause are considered “disruptive” ..huh..)
>
> Depressing.
>
> Are users so ignorant and they prefer a vanilla syntax that they know over significant expressive power ?
>
> I wonder.
>
> Dana
>
>
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Andy Bunce <bunce.andy at gmail.com <mailto:bunce.andy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not tried it myself but, AsterixDB [1] may be of interest to XQuery users.
>>
>> >The heart of AQL[2] is the FLWOR (for-let-where-orderby-return) expression. The roots of this expression were borrowed from the expression of the same name in XQuery.
>>
>> and
>>
>> >but XQuery was co-designed by a diverse band of experienced language designers (SQL, functional programming,and XML experts)
>> >and we wanted to avoid revisiting many of the same issues [3]
>>
>> Regards
>> /Andy
>>
>> [1] https://asterixdb.ics.uci.edu/ <https://asterixdb.ics.uci.edu/>
>> [2] https://asterixdb.ics.uci.edu/documentation/aql/manual.html <https://asterixdb.ics.uci.edu/documentation/aql/manual.html>
>> [3] http://www.vldb.org/pvldb/vol7/p1905-alsubaiee.pdf <http://www.vldb.org/pvldb/vol7/p1905-alsubaiee.pdf>
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Павел Велихов
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