<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Guess what !???<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think I’m not that bad at guessing :-))) I won the lollipop :-)) At least half of it !:-)))</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://www.couchbase.com/press-releases/couchbase-introduces-n1ql-breakthrough-query-language" class="">http://www.couchbase.com/press-releases/couchbase-introduces-n1ql-breakthrough-query-language</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In a couple of days we’ll see the MarkLogic announcement :-))</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I bet another lollipop on it !</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">:-))</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dana</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 3, 2015, at 7:50 PM, daniela florescu <<a href="mailto:dflorescu@me.com" class="">dflorescu@me.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">What I think will happen is the following:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. ISO will look at them like they are crazy when they send a language specification in Powerpoint</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2. They’ll scratch their heads and probable write SOMETHING that ( kind of ) makes sense</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">3. That SOMETHING written up will extend (some bastardized subset of) SQL</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">4. In the process, they forget that SQL in 2015 looks like THIS :-))))))))</div><div class=""><a href="http://savage.net.au/SQL/sql-99.bnf.html" class="">http://savage.net.au/SQL/sql-99.bnf.html</a></div><div class="">(good luck, guys!!!! You complain that extending XQuery is hard. Well, try THIS then :-) Ha, Ha, Ha …..))</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">5. That SOMETHING will look just like SQL-XML,. which disappeared in the hole it came from... as soon as it was on print….</div><div class=""><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL/XML" class="">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL/XML</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">6. They will pay a lot of “bloggers” to convince gullible people that SQL is the perfect “query” language </div><div class="">for semi-structured data. YES. But only if you have negative IQ and have no idea about semi-structured data.</div><div class="">(unfortunately there are lots of those)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Some of those guys already argue with me (very annoyingly to be honest, and without ANY knowledge of databases) on Linkedin</div><div class="">(if those companies choose people to argue with me… at least choose someone who can hold a scientific argument with me…. at least </div><div class="">make it a little fun for me….please …..)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As an example, please check this:</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/54257-6010072547398336516" class="">https://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/54257-6010072547398336516</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And I just told you my best guess. It’s nothing then a simple “hunch”, without any proof to it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The three companies that “make" this N1QL a success are: CouchDB, MarkLogic and Oracle. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I worked long enough at Oracle to recognize the “touch” of stupid politics, in top of a basis of bad technology.</div><div class="">And MarkLogic, given their executive people are only coming from Oracle, is likely to behave the same.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And I right, guys ??? Oracle ? MarkLogic ? Any comments ?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">======================</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Did I tell you, guys ??? I LOVE guess games …. :-)))))))</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I enjoy them !!!!!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bring some more !!!!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Have a great evening everybody,</div><div class="">Dana</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 3, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Ihe Onwuka <<a href="mailto:ihe.onwuka@gmail.com" class="">ihe.onwuka@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">All that effort into designing a language that has no published specification, will almost certainly never be a published standard and therefore no financial institution will be prepared to pay a N1QL for.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Stupid is as Stupid Does.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:15 PM, daniela florescu <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:dflorescu@me.com" target="_blank" class="">dflorescu@me.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">I guess I should cry with big tears…and not laugh at all.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Even smart people like Kurt Cagle would like to see this “inexact science language” (because there are two kinds of</div><div class=""> sciences, one exact, and one inexact…..) standardized as ISO ….</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/n1ql-couchbase-brings-sql-json-kurt-cagle" target="_blank" class="">https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/n1ql-couchbase-brings-sql-json-kurt-cagle</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The world is weird.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dana</div><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 2, 2015, at 8:38 PM, daniela florescu <<a href="mailto:dflorescu@me.com" target="_blank" class="">dflorescu@me.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">I copy and paste here from Linkedin my conversation with one of the top <div class="">scientists of on of the top NoSQL databases: Couchbase….</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><font color="#333333" face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class=""><span style="line-height:17px" class="">Please consider real world deployments, not academic endeavors....This is still an inexact science” :-))))))))</span></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><font color="#333333" face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class=""><span style="line-height:17px" class=""><br class=""></span></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><font color="#333333" face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" size="2" class=""><span style="line-height:17px" class="">++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</span></font></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0px 0px 102px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:16px" class=""><div style="margin:0px 10px 0px 0px;padding:10px 10px 0px 0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-size:13px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:inherit;line-height:17px;color:rgb(51,51,51);word-wrap:break-word;clear:both" class=""><span dir="ltr" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:inherit;line-height:inherit" class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">Dana,</span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">Please consider real world deployments, not academic endeavors....This is still an inexact science.</span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">On 6/2/15, 10:38 AM, Daniela Florescu wrote: </span><br class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">--------------------</span><br class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">Dear,</span></span></div><div style="margin:0px 10px 0px 0px;padding:10px 10px 0px 0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-size:13px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:inherit;line-height:17px;color:rgb(51,51,51);word-wrap:break-word;clear:both" class=""><span dir="ltr" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:inherit;line-height:inherit" class=""><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><br class=""></span>you have a query language implemented, and you have no specification written for it !???<br class=""><br class="">That's weird to say the least.<br class=""><br class="">I never heard of a programming language (because a query language is a programming language...), whose specification is only in Powerpoint.<br class=""><br class="">Sorry, I don't have time.<br class=""><br class="">If you have a specification written, please send it to me, and I'll give you an honest feedback.<br class=""><br class="">Best<br class="">Dana<br class=""><br class="">On 6/2/15, 10:33 AM, XXXXl wrote: <br class="">--------------------<br class="">Daniela,<br class=""><br class="">Couchbase Connect 15 going on this week at Levis Stadium in Santa Clara. You should check it out. We are talking up our query language N!QL.<br class=""><br class=""></span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/redir/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecvent%2Ecom%2Fevents%2Fcouchbase-connect-15%2Fevent-summary-b7744ca960364b75aba41de42cbef19e%2Easpx&urlhash=3ZMl" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(150,153,156);font-variant:inherit;line-height:inherit" target="_blank" class="">http://www.cvent.com/events/couchbase-connect-15/event-summary-b7744ca960364b75aba41de42cbef19e.aspx</a></div></div><div style="padding:5px 0px;border:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:16px;width:480px;background-color:white" class=""><ul style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;list-style:none;font-variant:inherit;line-height:inherit" class=""><li style="margin:0px 5px 5px 0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;font-variant:inherit;line-height:inherit;display:inline-block;zoom:1" class=""><br class=""></li></ul></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">
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