[xquery-talk] XQuery and Web 2.0

[Vyacheslav Sedov]

i guess that for now www lack XQuery (maybe eXist)-based CMS (forum,
gallery, CRM) &
hosting service that provide eXist database as option and look like it
vicious circle principle -
no hosting, no developers, no projects, no customers, no hosting......

Maybe we can use fork for example - hm... Bugzilla!!!
(http://www.bugzilla.org/)
written at XQuery-based engine (i guess - in eXist) as very serious
example of XQuery using.

List of potential sponsors here (http://www.bugzilla.org/installation-list/)

Also someone can write book like "XQuery is... PHP+MySQL on steroids" :)
with examples for forums, gallery, blogs & others use cases for XQuery.

with best wishes,
Slav

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Maxim Grinev <maxim at grinev.net> wrote:
> I don't mean to say that the whole application should be implemented in
> XQuery. Nether our team nor Sedna users try to do this. If XQuery were such
> a language which allows to do this, there should be no problems. One cannot
> implement everything in XQuery that is why he/she has to understand what
> other languages/tools can be used and how to integrate them with XQuery. A
> pipeline language does not provide complete answer to these questions.
>
> In our paper we described why XQuery is not good for some tasks and proposed
> ideas of combining XSLT/OmniMark with XQuery to implement the tasks, but it
> is also only part of the answer:
> http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2006/12/06/xquery-xslt-omnimark-mixed-content-processing.html
>
> Maxim
>
>
> 2008/4/26 Michael Kay <mike at saxonica.com>:
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree with John. Absence of an application platform like Rails is one of
> the main reason of not using XQuery widely. According to our experience (we
> are developers of Sedna XML DB) with Sedna users only very smart programmers
> can build *end-to-end* applications using XQuery.
> >
> >
> > They shouldn't even try (in fact, I don't think they are very smart if
> they do try). Use something like Orbeon XPL as the general application
> framework, and use it to link together components written in XQuery, XSLT,
> XForms, or anything else. The important thing is that the data should be in
> XML end-to-end, not that the logic should be in XQuery end-to-end.
> >
> >
> > Michael Kay
> > http://www.saxonica.com/
>
>
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